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Wussup guys,
I'm pretty new to jets, and the delta and have a bit of a fear of wakes.

How do I tackle the wake of a big rollbar boat?

What are the dangers?

I usually jump 'em but I got nice air off one an my motor unloaded a bit.
The last one ended up spraying water over the deck is that normal?
 

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The wakes off a roolbar boat are nothin gas and go. The cruser wakes are the scary ones...:))eek:))
 

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yea who cares about 7 ft wakes from 50 ft cruisers at full speed. The Howard just flies right over them at 70 MPH:D. Then I fix my gas pedal and seat($207.92)
 

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What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
 

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I submarined my jet boat going down a small slough trying to jump a wake of a cruiser going the same direction as me. I got wet and ankle deep in water. It was cool! As far as the roll bar boats go you really have nothing to worry about. Just get on the Delta and charge it. If you sit there and worry about all the variables that could arrise you wont have any fun. Just keep your eyes and ears open and you'll be fine.
 

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What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
Get right on the ass end of the cruiser and turn right into the crest of the wake and pray you clear the second... look at my avitar, thats how it's done. have fun and enjoy the delta.
 

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What works really well for me is to cross them as far away from the boat generating the wake as possible (wakes far away from the boat have had time to dissipate unlike the wake that's coming directly off of the boat). If it's a large wake, you'll wanna slow down and use the diverter to get the nose of the boat above the crest of the wake.

As soon as you get the boat on top of the wake, punch the throttle and the boat will basically launch over the wake.
Jon

While I understand your thought the theory sucks. Get as close to the back of the boat as you can, when you can read the type of beer they are drinking you are just about there…
Fully commit to the ride and turn square to the rollers (the wakes will be in sets of three and spaced very close together right where you will be at this point) punch it as you go right up the face of the first one, as soon as you crest the peek of the first roller with the rear of your boat let off the throttle. You will find that you will jump of the first one, clear the second and you should case the third as you land cushioning the impact of the jump. Works like a charm and has been very good to me for many years.
This will work no matter which way the boat if facing (either head on at you or you over taking it from the rear). Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
 

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Jon

While I understand your thought the theory sucks. Get as close to the back of the boat as you can, when you can read the type of beer they are drinking you are just about there…
Fully commit to the ride and turn square to the rollers (the wakes will be in sets of three and spaced very close together right where you will be at this point) punch it as you go right up the face of the first one, as soon as you crest the peek of the first roller with the rear of your boat let off the throttle. You will find that you will jump of the first one, clear the second and you should case the third as you land cushioning the impact of the jump. Works like a charm and has been very good to me for many years.
This will work no matter which way the boat if facing (either head on at you or you over taking it from the rear). Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
Are you sure about that???:D
 

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Always remember, once you have lined up you have to fully commit, there is no backing out at that point.
Which is the exact reason why I preach against this method, especially for a beginner. Little to no room for error whatsoever. But as they say, whatever "floats your boat". :D
 

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Which is the exact reason why I preach against this method, especially for a beginner. Little to no room for error whatsoever. But as they say, whatever "floats your boat". :D
So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off:)hand

It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
 

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So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off:)hand

It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
holy fok shit T u using that brain to much for a saturday:D guess im not the only lamo screwing around on the computer @ 11
 

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So what you are really saying is that at 65 mph you would recomend spinning your boat out on purpose and that is OK? Hey what ever floats your boat though right....just keep that shit far away from my boat.

As far as the wakes go, this isnt a lake we boat in; you dont always have a mile to avoid a wake in your little Fisher Price boat and it is very important to know how to cross them correctly which is what was asked. You can go as far back as you want and when you jump the first wake and stuff your boat in to the second I will wait to make sure that you are ok, but dont think for one minute that I am gonna give you a towel to dry off:)hand

It is very important out here to know what you are doing and know what your options are at a seconds notice. Everyone has their perfered way to deal with wakes when they have the space to do so but this is the Delta and you dont always have options. Hell I have seen wakes that I have come off plane for and rode out at idle in a pinch. The thing is to know your options, whats behind you (which in my case is you) and what is coming from the other direction at all times while in the Delta, these will determine how I approch each wake at any given time.
For the record, I don't spin out faster than 30mph. I've also been in my boat long enough to get a feel for it and know exactly what it's going to do. The spins are always controlled and not around other boats. If even for a second I sense an unsafe condition the maneuver is either aborted (if just starting to go into it) or the maneuver is cancelled altogether (if I've already determined that the situation around me is unsafe before the maneuver is carried out). Believe it or not, there is an actual thought process that goes into that maneuver. On that note, unless you realize and are OK with the huge risk you take when performing this maneuver, know your boat and know your boat like the back of your hand, have quick reflexes, can carry out the entire spin recovery procedure in your sleep, and there is absolutely zero risk to other boats and people around you beyond a shadow of a doubt, I strongly advise against pulling this maneuver off.

That being said, I spent a couple of hours on the phone with the author of this thread, and he is very new to jet boats so he's not only just learning the theory of operation and how to drive a jet boat in general, he's also just now getting a feel for his boat specifically. IMHO, I consider Terry's method to be an advanced maneuver that even I myself am not comfortable with pulling off, let alone a beginner who's just gettin' to know his boat and jet boats in general.

Terry, maybe sometime I'll have you drive my boat and perform your method to demonstrate to me exactly how it is to be pulled off correctly (through another boater, I learned the spin maneuver this exact same way). But for now I'm just having a hard time picturing exactly how to do it, how it would even work, and how that method could be better than how I've always been comfortable with doing it.

In response to your comment regarding jumping the first and nosediving into the second, that's not how my method is done. You raise the nose just enough so that the nose will clear the top of the first crest. Once the boat is on the first crest, you simply punch the throttle and launch the boat over the 2nd and 3rd wakes. You're merely using the 1st wake as a "ramp" of sorts. If I'm explaining it incorrectly, I just simply don't know of any other way to explain it rather than to demonstrate it.
 

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just stab and steer. You'll get through it one way or the other.
Jon Boy, I have seen you spin out your boat and seen the nose go under the boat stall and pop, spit and sputter, gas tank come undone, Is that the correct jet ski technique?, I mean jet boat technique? So what are the exact proceedures to properly execute a spin out(controlled) as you say?
 

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just stab and steer. You'll get through it one way or the other.
Jon Boy, I have seen you spin out your boat and seen the nose go under the boat stall and pop, spit and sputter, gas tank come undone, Is that the correct jet ski technique?, I mean jet boat technique? So what are the exact proceedures to properly execute a spin out(controlled) as you say?
Due to liability reasons I will not post that on a public forum. PM me and I'll send it to ya.
 

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Jon,

You mentioned that you learned your spin by riding with someone in a boat while they did one, just for the record if anyone intentionally spins their boat out while I am riding in it they will have a black eye long before we return to shore. Why would anyone put someone else’s life at risk doing such a stupid thing?

I have said my peace and completely agree to disagree with you on this. If you want to spin circles you should have bought a jet ski. I will just sit at far and watch you sink your boat with no questions asked from this point forward. I just hope that no one get hurt during the process.
 

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For the man who asked the question.

There is a little truth to every post here. The most important thing is to know your boat. The second most important thing is to know your boat. Get lots of seat time in all water conditions. If you have family with you when you go to the Delta, have them wear life jackets. We all have been wet. It was suggested that you get as far away from the creator of the wake as possible. That is a good plan. Cross the wake at a 45 degree angle at a slow speed. As you get the hang of it and more comfortable, you will learn what your boat likes and doesn't like. Watch for that big wake maker far ahead and start you plan early. Good luck and have fun.
 

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Jon,

You mentioned that you learned your spin by riding with someone in a boat while they did one, just for the record if anyone intentionally spins their boat out while I am riding in it they will have a black eye long before we return to shore. Why would anyone put someone else’s life at risk doing such a stupid thing?

I have said my peace and completely agree to disagree with you on this. If you want to spin circles you should have bought a jet ski. I will just sit at far and watch you sink your boat with no questions asked from this point forward. I just hope that no one get hurt during the process.
I whole heartedly agree with you on this! The person Jon is referring to (Jethro) has been doing the spin outs for many years. I'm not saying it's right nor is it a safe thing to do nor do I agree with doing them but he (Jethro) basically grew up with and on boats.

Al,
You're absolutely right! People need to take some advice but they also need to learn what's comfortable for themselves. On the other hand, they could do what I do when I have my wife in the boat....pull over, stop and have some lunch while you're waiting for the waves to dissipate :p
in a low profile jet that is.
 
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