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has anyone heard or know what is going to happing with berryessa now that the economy has taking a crap??? iv been up there twice and havnt seen any constuction going on....
 

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Prob. going to be a collection of ghost towns.....Sad
 

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last I heard was the contract negotiations between the Feds and the Pensus Group were stalled and an actual contract has not been awarded yet. Pensus is the company that put in the top bid to be the main concessionaire.
Also heard that it could very well be 10-12 yrs before anything is complete.

true or not, I don't know but the way things are going, it does make sense. Just another of many Federal f*ck ups.
 

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last I heard was the contract negotiations between the Feds and the Pensus Group were stalled and an actual contract has not been awarded yet. Pensus is the company that put in the top bid to be the main concessionaire.
Also heard that it could very well be 10-12 yrs before anything is complete.

true or not, I don't know but the way things are going, it does make sense. Just another of many Federal f*ck ups.

thats what i was thinking but wasnt what i wanted to hear:mad:...wonder if anyone is maning the gate at steel park for launching im gonna have to call them up!!!


called while i was typing...steel park launch is open until mid april then she said they have to vacate:)st...
 

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I just got this in an email from a friend of mine-

Contract Talks With Pensus Cancelled - The Lake Berryessa Disaster
Expands!

In a surprising, but not completely unexpected move, the Bureau of
Reclamation cancelled contract talks with the Pensus Group. In
carefully worded bureaucratese, they tried to minimize the clearly
disastrous impact of this decision. The only “bright” spot is that
they imply they will consider “opportunities for uninterrupted
operations” at Steele Park.

Released by BOR:3/16/09 - Transition in Visitor Services at Lake
Berryessa Will Extend Through the 2009 Season

The transition in visitor services at Lake Berryessa will continue
through the 2009 recreation season as the Bureau of Reclamation
continues to implement the Visitor Services Plan Record of Decision
(VSP ROD). The VSP ROD requires renovation of seven concession areas
to provide a broader, more diverse range of short-term recreation
opportunities for enjoyment by the general public. Implementation of
the VSP ROD coincides with expiration of 50-year concession contracts
and award of new long-term contracts to develop, operate, and maintain
expanded visitor facilities.

Award of new long-term contracts remains in progress. In March 2009,
Reclamation determined that the original contract solicitation did not
fully conform to legal requirements governing reimbursement for
capital improvements. On that basis, the negotiations for new
contracts have been cancelled. Reclamation expects to initiate a
revised solicitation within the next 120 days and award new long-term
contracts prior to the 2010 recreation season.

In the interim, visitor services at all Government-operated recreation
areas will be fully operational, including a free two-lane boat-launch
ramp at Capell Cove; hand-launch ramps at Eticuera and Oak Shores;
areas for picnicking, fishing, and swimming at Smittle Creek and Oak
Shores Day-Use Areas; and a visitor center and water education center
at Reclamation's Headquarters. Reclamation further anticipates
expanded recreational opportunities at Oak Shores Day-Use Area and
Camp Berryessa (the former Boy Scout Camp) to include RV and tent
camping. In addition to Government-operated facilities, Reclamation
will continue to pursue opportunities for uninterrupted operations at
Pleasure Cove Marina, Steele Park, and Markley Cove concession areas.

Also in the interim, Reclamation will continue cleanup and removal
activities at Rancho Monticello, Berryessa Marina, Putah Creek, and
Spanish Flat concession areas so that development and operation of new
recreation facilities can begin as soon as possible in 2010. Services
at those concession areas will remain closed in 2009 to ensure cleanup
is completed prior to contract award
 

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I read this shiat yesterday.. just fucking Great. :):)punch

By my calculations the lake will be dead for 3 years.

1 year for the Feds to extricate their head from their ass. (if thats even possible ;))

1 year to sign a new contract

1 year to build. (and then some)

Thats if we are lucky and nothing else gets screwed up, which it probably will...:|err
 

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I read this shiat yesterday.. just fucking Great. :):)punch

By my calculations the lake will be dead for 3 years.

1 year for the Feds to extricate their head from their ass. (if thats even possible ;))

1 year to sign a new contract

1 year to build. (and then some)

Thats if we are lucky and nothing else gets screwed up, which it probably will...:|err

shit bro your more optimistic than me i was guessing within the next 5yrs:mad::mad:...what a friggin joke! i hope they atleast keep steel park launch open. the fre launch sux azz did it one time never again 1/4- 1/2 mile walk to get your truck:)sphss
 

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shit bro your more optimistic than me i was guessing within the next 5yrs:mad::mad:...what a friggin joke! i hope they atleast keep steel park launch open. the fre launch sux azz did it one time never again 1/4- 1/2 mile walk to get your truck:)sphss
and you didn't mention the amount of theft that happens at that launch. Trailers, trailer tires/wheels, trailer lights, car/truck break-ins, it's all there.
Maybe with closing all the resorts past that launch/parking lot will cut down on all that though.
At this point, the elimination of the criminal element might be the only bright spot in this whole fiasco.

I wonder if anyone has looked into just turning Spanish Flat into a campground only area. Have RV sites, tent only sites, a day use section, a snack bar and a little general store....kind of like what's at Tower Park?

Come to think of it, I wonder how open KOA would be to the idea?
just kind of thinking out loud.
 

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and you didn't mention the amount of theft that happens at that launch. Trailers, trailer tires/wheels, trailer lights, car/truck break-ins, it's all there.
Maybe with closing all the resorts past that launch/parking lot will cut down on all that though.
At this point, the elimination of the criminal element might be the only bright spot in this whole fiasco.

I wonder if anyone has looked into just turning Spanish Flat into a campground only area. Have RV sites, tent only sites, a day use section, a snack bar and a little general store....kind of like what's at Tower Park?

Come to think of it, I wonder how open KOA would be to the idea?
just kind of thinking out loud.

yep i totaly left out that aspect of it! it would be nice if they could at least have some kinda camping/better launching going on while they figure out the removal process of "head up the azz"!
 

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It also seems like all of those spots that used to have mobile homes on them could easily be made into RV camping spots. Sewage, water and power already in place.
 

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