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If another person looks at that awesome boat and says to me "Why are you doing all that to a jet? You should get something with a prop" I'm going to :secret: them.

They'll say "You shoulda got a Cole tr2 with a blower blah blah blah" Then I ask them "Where's this awesome V-drive?"
Answer is always "At the bottom of the lake" lol!

Seriously though, why is everyone so compelled to say that? Are V-drives THAT much faster?
 

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If another person looks at that awesome boat and says to me "Why are you doing all that to a jet? You should get something with a prop" I'm going to :secret: them.

They'll say "You shoulda got a Cole tr2 with a blower blah blah blah" Then I ask them "Where's this awesome V

You need to drive a well set up V-drive. That will "answer" your question..... :stir:
 

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If you have to ask that question then you just dont get it.... :wink2:

Kinda like the old bikers motto about what riding a motorcycle is all about - "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand....." :))THumbsUp
 

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as others have said you have to drive one, I always wand one so I bought ad built a pretty bad ass one, they are a blast!
That being said, I just traded my DiMarco for a California Performance, the flatty did not fit my needs, I wanted something my kids
could drive, which they both did, but I was not comfortable turning them lose in it, had to lock out the pedal when my daughter
drove it and my wife would freak when the son would take it out. If you ever get a chance drive one, you won't regret it, you have
to drive it! not just put it in forward and give it gas. To each their own. Here's a pic of my DiMarco I just traded.
As far as the v-drives being faster, last month at the NJBA 660' race there was 1 v-drive- Rayzors blown injected Curtis hydro racing
a couple of jet boats with a little nitrous, and we all know how that ended:stir:
 

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Like someone else said, to each their own. I have been told the same thing regarding boats to garage improvements. I can't tell you why. But it only matters if it makes you happy!
 

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They must be referring to the wakeboard boats. The V-drive opens up the interior for more room and makes for a great wake.The suburban of the boating world. I'll stick with my jet.
 

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There are different opinions of what is best and what isn't...Basically, to each his own....I personally like the extreme maneuverability of the jet, along with "Brakes" and no equipment to damage underneath- That being said, in the Delta, the aquarium weed has taken over- a prop will cut thru it, while a jet hoovers it and gets clogged. Was picking up a kneeboarder close to shore and sucked up a large chunk of the weed, then spent an hour pulling it out! Thank gosh I have a JE drive with the clean-out outside the hull.....Still had to go under and pull some of it out of the grate.

I have had quite a few people run the old "Jets use a bunch more gas than (Insert other type of drive)" line at me....I always wondered about that, especially when I noticed that almost all ferrys are jet drive....So on my CVX-20, when I had the 460 rebuilt I payed special attention to the quench dimensions, had a custom cam made with wide lobe seperation, then installed a Weiand stealth and Edlebrock carb...I have 400 hp @ 4800, top out at 62, get to 30 mph in 3 seconds....Ran it up Trinity lake from Estrellita marina to Trinity Center and back, having marked the translucent fuel tank, then refilled it; 34 miles X 9 gallons = 3.8 MPG......This is better than all the DD ski boats they make now(Maybe some older small ones would do better) and, although a few SB I/O boats would top out at 60 and get better mpg, non would accelerate like the jet.....Oh, yeah, I installed a Legend Impeller, which dropped my cruise RPM 200, while not changing the Top end RPM.

Remember to always follow "conventional wisdom"......It's always gotta be right! Thinking outside the box is just crazy....
 

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There are different opinions of what is best and what isn't...Basically, to each his own....I personally like the extreme maneuverability of the jet, along with "Brakes" and no equipment to damage underneath- That being said, in the Delta, the aquarium weed has taken over- a prop will cut thru it, while a jet hoovers it and gets clogged. Was picking up a kneeboarder close to shore and sucked up a large chunk of the weed, then spent an hour pulling it out! Thank gosh I have a JE drive with the clean-out outside the hull.....Still had to go under and pull some of it out of the grate.

I have had quite a few people run the old "Jets use a bunch more gas than (Insert other type of drive)" line at me....I always wondered about that, especially when I noticed that almost all ferrys are jet drive....So on my CVX-20, when I had the 460 rebuilt I payed special attention to the quench dimensions, had a custom cam made with wide lobe seperation, then installed a Weiand stealth and Edlebrock carb...I have 400 hp @ 4800, top out at 62, get to 30 mph in 3 seconds....Ran it up Trinity lake from Estrellita marina to Trinity Center and back, having marked the translucent fuel tank, then refilled it; 34 miles X 9 gallons = 3.8 MPG......This is better than all the DD ski boats they make now(Maybe some older small ones would do better) and, although a few SB I/O boats would top out at 60 and get better mpg, non would accelerate like the jet.....Oh, yeah, I installed a Legend Impeller, which dropped my cruise RPM 200, while not changing the Top end RPM.

Remember to always follow "conventional wisdom"......It's always gotta be right! Thinking outside the box is just crazy....
I run on the delta and have dealt with the water weeds. Not a super big deal. I've gone under water and yanked it out of the intake many times :)
 

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I tried to gun it to get past the weeds- BIG mistake! Shoulda just turned it off and grabbed the paddle. There is a beach on Grant Line, approx' 2 miles west of Tracy Oasis Marina- We call it Skye's beach because my dog loves to play there....But now that weed has grown in and clogged the beach.....Skye kinda gets freaked out when "Something" is in the water....
 

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I tried to gun it to get past the weeds- BIG mistake! Shoulda just turned it off and grabbed the paddle. There is a beach on Grant Line, approx' 2 miles west of Tracy Oasis Marina- We call it Skye's beach because my dog loves to play there....But now that weed has grown in and clogged the beach.....Skye kinda gets freaked out when "Something" is in the water....

Man.. I didn't get out there once this season. Sounds like the weeds have gotten way worse. I was fortunate to have a New Zealander teach me how to deal with it. When you're hauling, or even cruising on plane at like 50 they come out of nowhere sometimes. I simply let off the gas for a split second and it seems to work well. Some areas have it REALLY thick. I paddle through. Clogged pump can be Real bad because no water goes through the motor..
 

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If another person looks at that awesome boat and says to me "Why are you doing all that to a jet? You should get something with a prop" I'm going to :secret: them.

They'll say "You shoulda got a Cole tr2 with a blower blah blah blah" Then I ask them "Where's this awesome V-drive?"
Answer is always "At the bottom of the lake" lol!

Seriously though, why is everyone so compelled to say that? Are V-drives THAT much faster?


from someone that has one at the bottom of the lake I say "F you", and yea they're way faster. just compare comp jet lap times to Pro stock.

They are getting faster and faster on the drag strip, but the fast ones are big $$$ and really well setup, more electronics on them than a fighter jet. just push a button and mash go pedal the boat does the rest, In comparison to a flat where you have to air It out, land it, free it up then settle it back down.

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from someone that has one at the bottom of the lake I say "F you", and yea they're way faster. just compare comp jet lap times to Pro stock.

They are getting faster and faster on the drag strip, but the fast ones are big $$$ and really well setup, more electronics on them than a fighter jet. just push a button and mash go pedal the boat does the rest, In comparison to a flat where you have to air It out, land it, free it up then settle it back down.

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stupid. this is hilarious. I suppose the "fast" flats, like Kelly rhead, Kelly asbe, jeff martin, tom Fulkerson are all running "lo-buck" junkyard engines in their "lo-buck" flats to run 6.0s. and of course, none of them have anything electronic in their boats. with junkyard stock transmissions and v-drives. you have no clue what you're talking about. and you'd never hear any of this bs from flat drivers that are actually fast.
go find a blown gas flat that can run 5.30s in 1000' like miller can, then get back to us...

in the mean time, a guy named spike finds an old junk outboard rigged boat, in September,that nobody knows what it is. converts it to a jet hull, throws a pump in it and some small block with a little blower on it, goes out and licenses for QE at firebird (well, maybe the blower is bigger than the engine) gotta be at least 1500 in it by now. go find a flat you can do that with...
 

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stupid. this is hilarious. I suppose the "fast" flats, like Kelly rhead, Kelly asbe, jeff martin, tom Fulkerson are all running "lo-buck" junkyard engines in their "lo-buck" flats to run 6.0s. and of course, none of them have anything electronic in their boats. with junkyard stock transmissions and v-drives. you have no clue what you're talking about. and you'd never hear any of this bs from flat drivers that are actually fast.
go find a blown gas flat that can run 5.30s in 1000' like miller can, then get back to us...

in the mean time, a guy named spike finds an old junk outboard rigged boat, in September,that nobody knows what it is. converts it to a jet hull, throws a pump in it and some small block with a little blower on it, goes out and licenses for QE at firebird (well, maybe the blower is bigger than the engine) gotta be at least 1500 in it by now. go find a flat you can do that with...
Cool deal got any pics of the spike deal ?
 

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I'm a v- drive guy but Spike Gorrs boat is bad ass, not to mention he put the whole boat together in 3 weeks from the time he bought the $400 boat on Danny's junk yard with no stringers to a 121mph jet boat with a 355 iron Chevy
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stupid. this is hilarious. I suppose the "fast" flats, like Kelly rhead, Kelly asbe, jeff martin, tom Fulkerson are all running "lo-buck" junkyard engines in their "lo-buck" flats to run 6.0s. and of course, none of them have anything electronic in their boats. with junkyard stock transmissions and v-drives. you have no clue what you're talking about. and you'd never hear any of this bs from flat drivers that are actually fast.
go find a blown gas flat that can run 5.30s in 1000' like miller can, then get back to us...

in the mean time, a guy named spike finds an old junk outboard rigged boat, in September,that nobody knows what it is. converts it to a jet hull, throws a pump in it and some small block with a little blower on it, goes out and licenses for QE at firebird (well, maybe the blower is bigger than the engine) gotta be at least 1500 in it by now. go find a flat you can do that with...

haha I knew you would be the one to run your mouth, so a PSI blown alky burning small block can't run at least 121mph in a flat?
 

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As far as I'm concerned, they're all fun. it all depends on what you really need. Once I get my two boats together ('74 Sleek Rebel for the wife and a SWTD for me), I'm hoping to do a flat bottom.
My first lake boat was a 21' Eliminator. It worked for the lake. The Southwind is because the wife wants to go a little faster. The semi V and the tunnel handle a lightly choppy lake a little better. You really have to know how to drive a flat bottom in the chop (or in anything for that matter). The only two I'd been in beat the hell out of you in any chop. On glass they're a blast.

Hell, I like them all!!! Well, maybe not whackers. When I hear them, it just reminds me that I need to trim my lawn. :wink2::)hand
 

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I'm a v- drive guy but Spike Gorrs boat is bad ass, not to mention he put the whole boat together in 3 weeks from the time he bought the $400 boat on Danny's junk yard with no stringers to a 121mph jet boat with a 355 iron Chevy
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Only 52lbs ???????????? Why not just go for the gusto and quit messing around
 
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