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Some would say it is!
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness—these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”
– George Washington
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“God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
–Thomas Jefferson
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“t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”
– John Adams
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“...The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.’ ”
– Benjamin Franklin
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“Were my soul trembling on the wing of eternity, were this hand freezing to death, were my voice choking with the last struggle, I would still, with the last gasp of that voice, implore you to remember the truth: God has given America to be free.”
– Patrick Henry
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“And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.”
– Abraham Lincoln
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“Let us look forward to the time when we can take the flag of our country and nail it below the Cross, and there let it wave as it waved in the olden times, and let us gather around it and inscribed for our motto: ‘Liberty and Union, one and inseparable, now and forever,’ and exclaim, ‘Christ first, our country next!’ ”
– Andrew Johnson
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“We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation, without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic. Where we have been the truest and most consistent in obeying its precepts, we have attained the greatest measure of contentment and prosperity.”
– Franklin Roosevelt
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“Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
– Ronald Reagan
It's almost as if Ronnie Boy saw HusseinO coming, huh? Then again, what does chairmanO care about these guys? Nothing at all apparently.
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim tribute to patriotism who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness—these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. . . . reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principles.”
– George Washington
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“God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever.”
–Thomas Jefferson
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“t is religion and morality alone which can establish the principles upon which freedom can securely stand. The only foundation of a free constitution is pure virtue, and if this cannot be inspired into our People in a greater Measure, than they have it now, they may change their Rulers and the forms of Government, but they will not obtain a lasting liberty.”
– John Adams
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“...The longer I live, the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured, Sir, in the Sacred Writings, that ‘except the Lord build the House, they labor in vain that build it.’ ”
– Benjamin Franklin
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“Were my soul trembling on the wing of eternity, were this hand freezing to death, were my voice choking with the last struggle, I would still, with the last gasp of that voice, implore you to remember the truth: God has given America to be free.”
– Patrick Henry
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“And whereas it is the duty of nations as well as of men, to own their dependence upon the overruling power of God, to confess their sins and transgressions, in humble sorrow, yet with assured hope that genuine repentance will lead to mercy and pardon; and to recognize the sublime truth, announced in the Holy Scriptures and proven by all history, that those nations only are blessed whose God is the Lord.”
– Abraham Lincoln
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“Let us look forward to the time when we can take the flag of our country and nail it below the Cross, and there let it wave as it waved in the olden times, and let us gather around it and inscribed for our motto: ‘Liberty and Union, one and inseparable, now and forever,’ and exclaim, ‘Christ first, our country next!’ ”
– Andrew Johnson
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“We cannot read the history of our rise and development as a nation, without reckoning with the place the Bible has occupied in shaping the advances of the Republic. Where we have been the truest and most consistent in obeying its precepts, we have attained the greatest measure of contentment and prosperity.”
– Franklin Roosevelt
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“Without God, there is no virtue, because there’s no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we’re mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we’re one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.”
– Ronald Reagan
It's almost as if Ronnie Boy saw HusseinO coming, huh? Then again, what does chairmanO care about these guys? Nothing at all apparently.
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How many millions of unborn babies have been killed for convenience?
How many just say "it's cool" with homosexual marriages?
How many fits are put up with just one nativity or plaque of the 10 commandments at a "government" building?
(By the way the founding fathers were concerned with the government trying to influence the church...not the other way around with that whole separation thing)
One parent files a lawsuit and there is no prayer in schools.
Naw...the days of us being a Christian nation are long over.
Many of those founding fathers were Quakers anyway. Oh, Free Masons as well.
How many just say "it's cool" with homosexual marriages?
How many fits are put up with just one nativity or plaque of the 10 commandments at a "government" building?
(By the way the founding fathers were concerned with the government trying to influence the church...not the other way around with that whole separation thing)
One parent files a lawsuit and there is no prayer in schools.
Naw...the days of us being a Christian nation are long over.
Many of those founding fathers were Quakers anyway. Oh, Free Masons as well.
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"Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord"
That's why we've prospered for over two hundred years and it's also why we are screwed today! Thank the KenyAn! And, thank the dingle berries who voted for his lies, fraudulent citizenship, pretended leadership capacity and broken promises. They are looking very stupid these days!
Oh, Ultra, dingle berries is not a racial slur despite your interpretation.
That's why we've prospered for over two hundred years and it's also why we are screwed today! Thank the KenyAn! And, thank the dingle berries who voted for his lies, fraudulent citizenship, pretended leadership capacity and broken promises. They are looking very stupid these days!
Oh, Ultra, dingle berries is not a racial slur despite your interpretation.
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our christian values have turned to crap. so as our country.Bless the lord for what we have or soon we will not.
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Doc, I hate to be the barer or bad news but the liberal American community as a whole has abandoned the founding fathers so their quotes don't mean anything to them, the constitution, what is it?, and the bible. So they will not respond to this thread because those things do not exist......evidence, the idiots they vote in office due to ideology not moral conviction!
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Is it a Medical Term?
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Thumbs, Men more important to this country than you or I and your precious Obama, say other wise....Unfortunately he has never learned or understood that and the liberals of today have stuck their head so far up their own a*s that they have no clue.......Doc pointed that out in citing some of their quotes on this country. "God who gave us life gave us liberty", what other Religion is not oppressive and empowers their followers to seek the best for themselves even if they choose not to believe? What other country? What other country was founded on the principals of America and what other country has seen it this success? None!
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Can you name one Mosque or Synagogue that was established in the US back in 1776?Are you interpreting all the references to God being a Christian god?
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Doesn't Christian mean to believe in Christ?
I think this nation was founded on Christian values. That seems to be obvious. I'm not sure if that equates to a Christian nation. Religious freedom and all.
Christian is exclusionary and is not PC in today's world. That's why uncle butt suck is is denouncing it's overwhelming presence in the US. Like it or not. Christians make up the majority of this nation.
For a little while longer anyway.
I think this nation was founded on Christian values. That seems to be obvious. I'm not sure if that equates to a Christian nation. Religious freedom and all.
Christian is exclusionary and is not PC in today's world. That's why uncle butt suck is is denouncing it's overwhelming presence in the US. Like it or not. Christians make up the majority of this nation.
For a little while longer anyway.
This is true. However, this nation was founded on Christian values, perhaps not "officially" but that is the reality.
Before I go any further, I AM NOT a Christian, and in fact have many conflicts with Christian beliefs and theology.
Those who remember the "God is fake" thread from HB know this.
Although we are free to practice any religion, we are not free to alter the intent of the founding fathers and have every religious group try to change this nation to fit there beliefs.
Australia has made this clear. I remember reading a quote saying words to the effect that "You are free to practice your religion here, but we will not change our country to fit you beliefs". I am sure I have misquoted to a great extent.
It is this very celebration of diversity that you hold dear that is the root cause of the division of classes, ethnicity, and race that continues to plunge our nation into confusion and eventual anarchy.
We MUST all be American first, regardless of religion. Practice what you want, just don't try to convert me or tell me you are right and I am wrong.
I am at peace with my maker.
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And this is where Republicans paint themselves into a corner.
Is it being said that you must be christian to have moral values?
Is it being said that only a christian can be fiscally responsible?
Is it being said that only a christian can understand the true meaning of the United States Constitution?
I could go on.
I'm not a christian, I'm registered still as a republican but this issue has been a serious thorn in the side of the Rep. party and has turned all to many away.
Continue pushing this agenda and The Reps will fall further away from parking their butts in D.C. Like it or not, there are many other issues that can be addressed to save our nation. One would be the Federal Reserve Bank. It will soon dictate to congress and the house, at that point we will have no say in the matter.
Is it being said that you must be christian to have moral values?
Is it being said that only a christian can be fiscally responsible?
Is it being said that only a christian can understand the true meaning of the United States Constitution?
I could go on.
I'm not a christian, I'm registered still as a republican but this issue has been a serious thorn in the side of the Rep. party and has turned all to many away.
Continue pushing this agenda and The Reps will fall further away from parking their butts in D.C. Like it or not, there are many other issues that can be addressed to save our nation. One would be the Federal Reserve Bank. It will soon dictate to congress and the house, at that point we will have no say in the matter.
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Well said. My constitutional rights trump anyone's beliefs in a God or Jesus.
But I question if the Republicans can get elected without catering to these people. They are to the Republicans what the inner city crowd is to the democraps.
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Not where I went to school.I believe so ..but isn't your savior pronounced Hesus?
handhandAren't you supposed to be doing like 110MPH up some river somewhere?
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That’s liberal BS.....I hope you have not bought into.....we do not say you have to be Christian. Our country is founded on Christian Moral Principals and what every religion you have, should not deconstruct the founding principals. Worship or not however you wish. I am not going to try and push my beliefs on you......but the fact remains that this country is founded on Christian principals? Do you want Sharia Law? Maoist Principals? Stoned in the streets? Female mutilation under religious context? Equality? Markist economic system? Freedom? Prosperity? Might? What other country not following those principals have the freedom we have? Again, none!
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