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    Drag Runner then.. back right corner of the hull is the Hull Identification Number, will find out what layup it is.. light, medium or heavy..
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    Here's a side shot, motor seems to be at more of an angle than in the Circle Runner. Sittin pretty high......................................
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    My Dad has run his Buick off the front since 65' no issues.

    My Sanger is an 18'6 and I have never found any literature on it. All the info I have found on an 18'6 is for the runner bottoms. I talked to Harlin Orin who was the shop foreman for Sanger and the father of the Bubble deck and he told me that they had several boats go out that they were playing with.

    I love the boat it turns on rail's either right or left and will do anything I ask her to. If this is the same hull as mine, it's smaller in scale compared to a 19' family ski Sanger, will be narrower by about 4", less free board and only 8' in the cock pit vs 9' for the family skier. I mention that because I went from a 19' to this one and by just looking they are very similar until you sit in it or try to put more people in it. if you are looking to pack some adults comfortably in this, think twice about this hull. This is a ski boat for us and we just finished it's 22nd summer with our family. We fit in her better back in the day the size of this boat is what pushed me to build my Day cruiser so I could have a boat with a little room. I am 6'4" and 300++ I fit no problem, the kid behind me is 6'2 and he is stuffed in pretty good.
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    Thanks for pic's and info above Spec Sanger!
    Had owner re measure and says 18' 2" given he's going around the motor that close enough for me!
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    The main reason we put the engines in harmonic balancer forward is to turn left in circle racing. It isn't something you do for a lake boat. Engines don't live quite as long and your propellers are limited. Usually we put a boat in balancer forward if it is the right hull to want to turn left. We don't do this to just general lake boat hulls. Boats that are balancer forward usually don't turn right to save their lives. But this guy doesn't really sound like a "truth teller."

    That engine making that power. Nope! This is a person that has never sat on a dyno. The same guy that says his 350 in his T-bucket at the local car show is making 475HP.
    That thing turning right? Probably not. It may turn really tight, but when you get in a circle boat and turn left, you will find that what we thought was a tight turn, really isn't.
    130 MPH? Not no - but HELL NO!!! These people don't have a clue what it takes to make a flat go 130. And you don't want 130 on most local lakes. 130 means lots of money, truckloads of testing, armies of know-how, lots of maintenance and lots of parts.

    Here is the issue. Everyone that ever had over the transom headers told the world that their boat was a 100MPH boat. Yes, it feels like it. And yes - sitting in the seat, you would believe it. So, if you beat a 100MPH boat, and yours is faster, then it must be 120. And this one is better than that. Like Nigel Tiffnel and his amps going to 11!

    Now, to the reality. It looks like a cool boat. It looks like it has decent hardware. Could it be a great boat? Yup. Could it teach a bunch of people to ski? Yup. Could it become the boat the family and friends get addicted to water in? Yup. So - why can't that be good enough? Just let it be what it is.

    The engine sitting that high isn't an issue. It probably has a 12 degree v-drive. That is a great product, just more "lake boat" than "race boat." But it isn't going to hurt it being a great and fun lake boat. (The standard v-drive angles are 10 and 12. 10's sit the engine lower. More of a "race" set up. But the strength is really the same.)
    If the thing has a solid strut, and the hull is sound, it could be a really cool boat. You could outrun 95% of the hot boats at the local lake. A little to ski behind and fun for the family and friends. This could be the boat of your dreams.
    Just don't fall into that crap about a BBC that has to be making 750, and a boat that does 130. We have enough of those around.
    A 90 MPH flat with a 500HP BBC that runs great (like this one) is the recipe for a fun lake boat.
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    I ran snout driven for years with my ski boat. I had zero problems.

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    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So has the dyno^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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    Quote Originally Posted by straycat View Post
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So has the dyno^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    which is why I use both. I would rather be the one to break hearts than to have mine broken. You can either have the reality check now or later.

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    18' 6" sounds like a drag runner, no way thing will touch 100 let alone 130. Prop choice very limited.
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    It's a circle runner, notice how the chines tuck in at the bottom of transom. Drag runner sides are much more straight down. In order to accommodate the back to back seats the motor is a little further back than most "total performance" setups. I agree with the other comments, it is probably a 90 mph boat as it sits. My circle runner is just over a 90 mph boat with 550 hp (and lots and lots of set up work). My Canyon was extremely well set up and it took just over 1000hp to get it to 130mph. I too would offer to pay him full price if it does do 130 but take 100 bucks off of the price for each mph below that.
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