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    Default Choppys TX19 Condor Winger

    I thought it was a dream, but its still here!

    Seen this TX19 on craigslist 17 minutes after it was posted. I called and tied it up. Then I spent the rest of the week chewing my nails!

    Finally friday night came and I took off for Montana to get my new floater. Left at midnight and rolled into his driveway about 10AM Saturday morning. All said and done It was home at 12pm sat night.

    Lots of driving and long hours. It was so worth it.

    I have my dream machine now! Im so stoked to get it all as nice as I can.























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    Related threads with info pertaining to this boat.

    http://www.performanceboats.com/wfl-...19-condor.html

    http://www.performanceboats.com/boat...19-condor.html

    Quote Originally Posted by Alter Ego View Post
    This boat is the sister to the Condor that WT listed for Bam Bam. Ervin Capps knows these two boats well, said that the original owner drew the graphics up on a napkin. There are only slight variations in this and Bam Bams. There were only two Condors painted with this paint scheme. Looks like a hell of a deal for only 5k. congrats to Chop Shop, should make you a nice sled.
    Thanks for the info, any more is very appreciated.

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    Nice Winger, welcome to the Crew
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    NICE! Someone put some time in on the polishing. Have fun with it!

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    Thanks Guys!

    The pump has been chromed, not polished. It looks good except for the diverter parts. The chrome is flaking off on those items. It is still stuck good to the droop and bowl etc.

    I think the aluminum that place uses must be a different alloy/casting than the pump parts.

    Figure Ill just paint or powdercoat the place parts red or black to match the gelcoat.

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    Super good deal on your new boat!


    SOMEONE SAID YOU CAN'T TAKE IT WITH YOU! SO,IM BURNING IT UP ONE GALLON AT A TIME!
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    NICE Ride Congrads !

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    Well we went to Alder today and the boat worked for the most part.

    We fired it up and found out it was plumbed with no basset valve. They just fed the headers off a 4 port thermostat housing made for jetboats. I just dont think its supposed to feed the headers that way.

    So I figured I would just keep it wound up and make a short run anyways. NOPE. Got about 20 feet from the dock and realized that the guy I got the boat from had put the new rack/helm in backwards.

    No problem! Rolled around under the dash for about 10 minutes and got it all taken apart and reversed and working correctly.

    So I head out for a pass and it falls flat on it face after about 300 feet. Figure out its pulling the choke closed, so we rig that open and it runs better.

    The way this boat just gets on top of the water quickly and just glides without working the engine is just unbelievable.

    It was running like either the carb was a pos, or the IGN was not working correctly. It seemed to be missing until ya got it wound up tight. I noticed that while turning the dist to adjust the timing, I could feel the rotor "ticking" the contacts inside the cap. After closer inspection I noticed that the cap was a real sloppy fit and not staying centered. Then we noticed one of the water hoses was being cut/buzzed thru by the alternator belt and called it a day.

    But otherwise worked good.

    Got it home and pulled the distrubitor cap off and noticed the dist base was full of oil and it had the GM module replaced by a MSD circuit board that was drenched in oil.

    So Im going to replace the distributor and module and cap/rotor and put a mean carb on it and pray for improvement. I already fixed the hose, so thats good to go.


    Also noticed that I need to go get lumber and carpet in the morning cuz one of my bunks wanted to float away! The others dont look far behind either.

    Ill get pics up after my camera charges up.

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    One happy guy!!
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    So I put a double pumper 850 on it today. Also put in a new distributor with the advance locked out.

    Took it out to Tanwax tonight just to shake down things again. It runs awesome now.

    It just leaps up onto a plane like there is no drag at all.

    Took the GPS so we could get a baseline number to start with. Boat went 65 with me and the ol lady and TWO full tanks of fuel. I imagine it would go a little faster with just me and almost no fuel.

    Now I just need to get a few hoses sorted out and I think its good.

    I am still concerned tho about not getting any water out of the packing seal. Both bolts are loose enough to wiggle by hand but not water flow. After running around for 15-20 minutes the pump snout/input bearing area was pretty warm. It was hand packed by me and then I pumped the empty area full after installing it.

    When the boat is idling I can hear a faint howl/harmonic noise. It sounds like its in the bow, but Im just hearing it echo/amplify up/off the hull. The noise in kinda like when ya rub circles around a wine glass. Kinda a whine and a hum all at once. Its only heard at idle tho. As soon as ya bring the Rs up it goes away. Engine has good oil pressure.

    Could I be hearing a dry/hot packing seal?

    Kinda has me worried, but dont know what to do about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chop Shop View Post
    So I put a double pumper 850 on it today. Also put in a new distributor with the advance locked out.

    Took it out to Tanwax tonight just to shake down things again. It runs awesome now.

    It just leaps up onto a plane like there is no drag at all.

    Took the GPS so we could get a baseline number to start with. Boat went 65 with me and the ol lady and TWO full tanks of fuel. I imagine it would go a little faster with just me and almost no fuel.

    Now I just need to get a few hoses sorted out and I think its good.

    I am still concerned tho about not getting any water out of the packing seal. Both bolts are loose enough to wiggle by hand but not water flow. After running around for 15-20 minutes the pump snout/input bearing area was pretty warm. It was hand packed by me and then I pumped the empty area full after installing it.

    When the boat is idling I can hear a faint howl/harmonic noise. It sounds like its in the bow, but Im just hearing it echo/amplify up/off the hull. The noise in kinda like when ya rub circles around a wine glass. Kinda a whine and a hum all at once. Its only heard at idle tho. As soon as ya bring the Rs up it goes away. Engine has good oil pressure.

    Could I be hearing a dry/hot packing seal?

    Kinda has me worried, but dont know what to do about it?
    It may have an Stainless Steel impeller and it will make a sound that Alu. won't! And I don't get any water out of the packings and your nuts should be snug to packings! Do check the water lines to headers plumbed stright to the headers can cause reversion and will kill a motor!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Widetrack View Post
    It may have an Stainless Steel impeller and it will make a sound that Alu. won't! And I don't get any water out of the packings and your nuts should be snug to packings! Do check the water lines to headers plumbed stright to the headers can cause reversion and will kill a motor!

    Yep I picked up a basset Tee yesterday and plan to replumb the intake/dump hoses. I just wanted to get it on the water resterday and see if all the mechanicals work. I didnt really idle too much, if ya know what I mean! The full time water in the headers has milked up the engine oil fast also. I think a basset valve and a restricter valve will cut down on the water in the pipes.

    No stainless impellor (I wish!), just an aluminum one so far.

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    A little better insight on why Im paranoid about the packing seal/heat.

    My packing seal is a whitish dry crumbly kinda stuff. I pulled the top layer out and looked at it.

    MY concern is because I PACKED IT IN tighter than normal.

    When I was pressing out the shaft to replace the bearing I may have pressed the packing in tighter. There is a sleeve behind the input bearing that creates a sealing surface for the grease seal. Well that sleeve was stuck on the shaft pretty good and didnt want to slide. I noticed it when the press tightened up before the shaft had let go of the bearing. Then it donned on me that I was pressing the packing ropes in tighter since that sleeve would not move. So I tapped the shaft back out (the bearing will stick to the shaft tighter than the pump housing) so the bearing would back out. I then tacked a couple tabs on the sides of the old bearing so it would hold itself outside the pump. I only need to press it another 1/2 inch to get it out of the housing. That kept me away form that seal any more.

    Once I got the pump all back together it would turn very smooth, but had a fair bit or resistance from the very tight packing seal. I installed the two piece clamping collar but did not tighten it hoping the packing seal would loosen up and dribble a little after a few runs.


    It gets pretty warm, but I can put a finger on the shaft (inbetween the bearing and the packing seal area) and not burn myself. But I have welder hands and can stand a little more heat than some nancy hands will.

    I only have a one piece driveline too so I cant unhook the engine and feel the pump either now after a few runs.

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    Well I have had the boat out for two all day trips so far.

    It works awesome. I love it. The ol lady was still on the fence the first time out, but after riding some choppy water and rough conditions yesterday she was a believer. She loves it.

    Im still worried about the packing seal and Im gonna replace it this week just so I feel better.

    Tony should be getting my new loader in pretty soon also. I am just running a loaner cuz the one that came in the boat was horrible looking and I didnt fee it was safe.

    The cooling lines are all done right now. I installed a basset Tee and shimmed to get steam around 2200rpm.

    Ran a full tank out and (reluctantly) learned that the dual tank/gauge switch worked fine. Tossed the switch and cranked a few times and it lit right up. (happy!)

    I need to replace the white seal ring on the steer/diverter nozzle as I get a little spray/mist out the sides of the junction. Easy fix, I think.

    Rubbed it out and put some wax on it. It looks so much better now that it shines! It looks so much newer now!

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